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Hi,
Wow, that was quick! I think we are getting close.
Julian.

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It is not because Andrew is a fast genius. It's just that nobody ever asked to implement this format. It's so easy... Please remember, we are a public demand driven site.

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I have tried converting two CSV files, both of which pass the XML validation test. The only difference I can see from the GPX file I exported from the Volvo is that in the phone number the brackets around the country and area codes have disappeared in your version. In the Volvo implementation, the number appears as +(33)-(3)-86939386, but in the output when converting the number from CSV into a new GPX with your tool I get 33-3-86939386 without the brackets. I made sure to include the leading >.
I think the Volvo system needs these in order to dial the number correctly from a mobile phone connected via Bluetooth, so the extended functionality would not work. Is this fixable? I'll hold back checking this in the car until you can clarify this.
Thanks again,

Brackets or no-brackets, should be the same.
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Hi Mark,
Just back from the car. You are correct, the brackets didn't make a difference and I was able to test the phone number in a single-entry test file and my full set of 200 addresses..
I noticed two little things which need fine-tuning:
1) The GPX conversion enclosed the name of the entry in quotation marks, which appeared on screen e.g. "Mercure Nevers Pont de Loire"), but I removed these very simply by editing the GPX file in Notepad, but you may be able to fix it in the schema.
With this change, I now have a fully operational file (yeah!) ... provided I only use standard Latin characters (i.e. no accents).
2) Your schema is using the ISO 8859-2 character set, which is normally used for Eastern European languages, whereas the Volvo export used UTF-8. I can't get accented characters to display properly, probably because of this (my addresses are all in France). I'll give sorting this a go myself tomorrow (it's past midnight here) but if it's something you can fix easily, that would be great.
If between us we can make these two adjustments we'll have a fully functioning capability for the Volvo Sensus system which can be used internationally!
Best,
Julian.
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Mark

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1. Name quotes removed.
2. You can easily change charset: go to OPTIONS (top left bar) and select any character encoding (charset) that you want to use.
3. Accents and GPX - they do not mix well together, but is possible.
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jparish

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Hi once again Mark and Andrew,
Result! I have tested the gpx files once again in the car and am very happy with the result. I tweaked the presentation of the phone numbers in Notepad so that they look exactly like any standard POI entry and successfully dialled numbers in two different countries to check the country and area codes were working OK.
In the end, I left the addresses without accented characters: in UTF-8 the schema failed the validation test, and in charsets 8859-2 and 1252 the validation test went through OK, but the accented characters would not display. There's probably a solution there somewhere, but after trying multiple combinations I've drawn a blank. I'm going to pause here, as I feel we have come a long way very quickly. Huge kudos to you for implementing this in such a professional way! I will post an update on the Volvo Forum so that others can benefit (and in the UK the accents won't be an issue!)
For me, apart from the general satisfaction of this, it means I can add even more value to the online extras for a book I have coming out in January. My test set of 200 addresses corresponds to the places described in France: the essential guide for car enthusiasts, and for which I am providing an online download of the GPS coordinates in a variety of formats: Garmin, TomTom and now Volvo!
So once again, many, many thanks for your support and a job well done!
Julian.
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Hi
Andrew just added a setup option to automagically remove all accents from the file: https://www.gps-data-team.com/pda-gps-navigation/topic/2369.html
We wish you a good luck with your Guide.

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darrenwilliams80

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Could I thank you for all your hard work on this. I have tried doing this from a report that Julian has written.
I have download your own POI files and used the online converter, which I must say is excellent. However, after saving as "Volvo Sensus" file only to find my car claims the file is corrupt.....

Any ideas? I have tried it with the Ikea and Tesco POI's
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jparish

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Hi Darren,
Can you confirm which model and year of Volvo you have, and what type of satnav system (RTI, Sensus or Sensus Touch) you are using?
Can you send me one or both of the final gpx files as you loaded them into the Volvo?
I am super-busy just now with the biggest annual trade show I attend, but will try to have a look.
Julian.
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darrenwilliams80

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Thanks Julian for getting back so quickly.
V60 R-Design Nav 2014 and Sensus Touch
Darren
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jparish

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Hi Darren,
I think the answer is simply that you have the Sensus Touch rather than "standard" Sensus Navigation: bizarrely, they use completely different underlying software, so this is probably why your car is rejecting the file. Your GPX file looks fine and it validates perfectly using the XML Validator tool I use; there are also no issues with Byte Order Marks, which can create snafus. I have copied your IKEA file onto a USB key and will try uploading it into the car tomorrow when I have a moment.
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Julian.
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jparish

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Hi again,
Just noticed one small error in the phone number, but which shouldn't affect what I said below. For your phone to dial the number correctly you need to lose the 0 at the start of the area code, as you would with any phone number formatted for international calling. I.e. your test entry should be -(203) and not -(0203). I'm assuming that your source data showed the leading 0. If that is the case, it's easy to fix by doing a global search and replace of all the occurrences of -(0 with -( before you convert the data into the Volvo format. But I think that would simply make the number undialable rather than giving you a corrupt file message. Anyway, I'll try in my car tomorrow.
Cheers,
Julian.
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darrenwilliams80

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Hi Julian
Thanks for looking at this for me. It is odd.
If I reload the file into the online converter here, the phone number is lost. it only shows:
-3.1881804,51.4627718,Ikea Cardiff,,;
but the file also has the telephone number in.
I have also noticed that if I add anything into the other files it adds the other comers.... for example:
-3.1881804,51.4627718,Ikea Cardiff,,; ,,,,Great Britain,,,
The ; mark seems to be a hidden cr in the address field.
If I remove this it disapears....
-3.1881804,51.4627718,Ikea Cardiff,,,,,,Great Britain,,,
Thanks, Darren
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jparish

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Hi Darren,
Unfortunately I have no means of testing Sensus Touch, and it's hard to respond to this message without knowing precisely what file formats you are talking about (for input & output). I will check the original file you sent yesterday in my car later today; apart from the 0 at the start of the area code (which is easy to fix) it looks fine - for standard Sensus.

Taking this conversation offline for a moment, to work with Darren in mail to facilitate exchange of files. We're nearly there.
Cheers,
Julian.
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jparish

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The IKEA data is now installed correctly and working fine in my Volvo, equipped with the standard Sensus satnav system. However, Darren's car has the touch-enabled Sensus Touch system, which uses different operating software and maps. Without access to a car with this technology, or knowledge of it, unfortunately I can't go any further. Perhaps someone else - e.g. in the US, where this feature may be more common - can take up the challenge?
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jparish wrote:
Unfortunately I have no means of testing Sensus Touch

Hi Darren,
I believe that Sensus Touch uses an iGO software. Try to install KML files for iGO.
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darrenwilliams80

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Mark wrote:
Hi Darren,
I believe that Sensus Touch uses an iGO software. Try to install KML files for iGO.
Regards


Hi Mark

Thanks for this.
I have NAV in the car and Sensus Touch was added after by the dealer. You are right about the iGo. If I go into Sensus Touch and look for Navigation it is call iGO, but I don't have the licence key for that one.
I get to the NAV by pressing the NAV button on the dash and not going through Sensus. I believe this is RTI? Is this listed as "Volvo Route" for the save options? I believe these maps are by NavTeq.

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