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Posted by jiananmail
How fast am I traveling

Hi everyone

When I drive, the speed displayed by TOMTOM XL250 is usually 5km slower than my car speedometer, so basically when my car speedometer shows I am driving at 80, TOMTOM only shows 75.

And it is the same for both of my two cars, so which one is more accurate?
My cars or the GPS: https://www.gps-data-team.com/convert/speed.php

Thanks

Posted by redadder
car speedo v gps

jiananmail wrote:

My cars or the GPS: https://www.gps-data-team.com/convert/speed.php


Hi,
The gps speed is correct.
Car speedos always read a bit low to err on the safety side of the fence. 8)

Posted by mikmock
Re: How fast am I traveling

My Astra estate says I'm doing 10% more than the TomTom and digital speed indicators on the side of the road.

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Posted by duane4
Re: Bouncing markers / having a coffee at 2.5mph

Anonymous wrote:
- The most accurate speed reading is from Photo Enforcement cameras (redlight and speed cameras). They provide just under 100% correct reading.

Many have proven to be inaccurate too, people have beaten them in court.
Anonymous wrote:
GPS satellites are positioned in a geostationary orbit, at least 36,000 kilometres (22,500 mi) above your car.

This isn't correct, they can't be in a geostationary orbit and still cover the polar regions, 20,180 km (12,540 mi) according to wikipedia. IIRC they have an 11 hour orbit.
Anonymous wrote:
Their margin of error can be up to 30 meters per a reading cycle. You can test how accurate is your GPS smartphone with this almost 20 years old GPS tool:

They can be a lot more accurate and inaccurate then this, but for the most part they generally come within 3m accuracy, the faster you go the more accurate they get (to a point). Also as more birds become available, especially with multi-bands to get round atmospheric delays they're only going to get more and more accurate.
Anonymous wrote:
It is cool to use GPS speed as a guide, but do not rely on it (if caught speeding).

Having a log updated per second can get you off.
Anonymous wrote:
Dedicated GPS units perform much better than any ordinary smartphone.

What evidence do you have to back this up?
Anonymous wrote:
You can check the reading error if you start the trip logger while sitting and sipping your morning coffee. The location marker will bounce non-stop. Do you still trust your GPS telling you how fast you are going?

As above the faster you go the more accurate it becomes, walking speeds aren't that great.

Posted by Guest
Re: Bouncing markers / having a coffee at 2.5mph

duane4 wrote:
What evidence do you have to back this up?

To answer your last question first: My evidence level is ZZ (somewhere in between "I guess" and "I believe"). I trust that you, and anyone else, are much better GPS experts than I am.
BUT, the error can only increase as car goes faster. There is no logic that the GPS signal accuracy improves with speeding, BUT on the other side, as my friend explained to me, statistically, the confidence increases as the margin of error decreases.

Standing speed 0km/h - GPS shows 2.5 km/h - error = infinite
Walking speed 5km/h - GPS shows 2.5 km/h - error = 50%
Walking speed 5km/h - GPS shows 7.5 km/h - error = 50%
Driving speed 50km/h - GPS shows 47.5 km/h - error = 5%
Driving speed 50km/h - GPS shows 52.5 km/h - error = 5%
Driving speed 100km/h - GPS shows 97.5 km/h - error = 2.5%
Driving speed 100km/h - GPS shows 102.5 km/h - error = 2.5%


1. Any way, GPS does not show the exact speed! GPS software uses averaging to ESTIMATE your speed. Car speedometer uses exact MEASUREMENT to display your speed. In my opinion (evidence level: ZZ) car speedometer wins.

2. Smartphones share processor speed with any background running application. These apps delay internal clock reading and increase the time dependant calculation errors
Dedicated GPS units use a dedicated fraction of a processor time to get (more accurate) location reading and use that (more accurate) time for calcs.

I checked my speed with an old Apple iPhone, and a new Samsung smartphone. I am deeply sorry to say that Apple wins. Samsung's processor is too busy to give any good (time dependent) reading. (It does not mean that the iPhone is a better phone).

Anyway, I prefer my standalone GPS as it does not drain my battery as fast as Samsung/iPhone/any-other-smartphone.

Posted by duane4
Re: Bouncing markers / having a coffee at 2.5mph

Anonymous wrote:
1. Any way, GPS does not show the exact speed! GPS software uses averaging to ESTIMATE your speed. Car speedometer uses exact MEASUREMENT to display your speed. In my opinion (evidence level: ZZ) car speedometer wins.
The speed is based on the time between updates and the distance between updates, which is calculated not averaged, also many things can effect car speedo's, such as tyre wear, because they measure rpm off the engine, not ground speed.
Anonymous wrote:
2. Smartphones share processor speed with any background running application. These apps delay internal clock reading and increase the time dependent calculation errors
Smart phones like standalone GPS use a standalone GPS chip.
Anonymous wrote:
I checked my speed with an old Apple iPhone, and a new Samsung smartphone. I am deeply sorry to say that Apple wins. Samsung's processor is too busy to give any good (time dependent) reading. (It does not mean that the iPhone is a better phone).
That's hardly an exhaustive test of smart phones v GPS units.

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